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12/2 Daily Links

Sixty-three minutes of NBA action can take a toll on you.  I bet the Thunder players were tired too.

What the pros are saying:

What I’m saying:

  • It really is kind of staggering as to how many times the Thunder found themselves in a hole in the 4th, and each of the OT’s.  What I really liked was the heightened concentration that resulted.  They were very impatient at the beginning of the game, but slowed down and focused when it mattered the most.  And nobody had greater concentration than Jeff Green and his three free throws at the end of the 2nd OT.  Pure ice.
  • Very interesting quote in Sheridan’s piece:
    “Our coaches did a good job of warning us what play they might run, and that’s what they ran and we played it well. We knew that play was coming, and we stopped it” – Russell Westbrook

    If that’s true, then WOW, that’s some pretty amazing game preparation and coaching by Brooks.  Because if you watch the play break down, Westbrook clearly sags off of Farmar as he’s driving to the rim.  Westbrook let him go, knowing that he’d kick it wide to the hot handed Morrow, and the Thunder then successfully trapped him in the corner.  It’s like a classic judo move – let the opponent go the way they want to go, and then use their own force against them.

  • Excellent point about the “Do we foul the man?” debate at the end of regulation.  It will take more coaching and practicing the scenario, but the good rule of thumb is, if the man puts the ball on the court, he cannot simultaneously be in the act of shooting, and it’s safe to foul him.  Morrow dribbled and then shot.  Opportunity missed.  Green caught, elevated, and shot.  Bad foul, even if the shot hadn’t even come close.
  • Green also provided a wonderful template for Durant of all people.  He was far more integrated in the offense, getting Durant-like shots, than Durant has all season.  He was posting up, curling, popping, and slashing to the rim with total control and balance.  He was patient in a way that Durant has not. (Which of course furthers my point that he’s the perfect guy to play 6th man by spelling Durant. They just don’t co-exist well since they play so similarly).
  • Westbrook, best PG?  Not quite yet.  The true test of an elite PG is whether he can dominate a game without taking a shot.
  • I loved the way James Harden stepped up in the game.  He has really good body control.  He started attacking the rim consistently in a way that reminded me a bit of hoops prodigy/NBA disappointment Kenny Anderson, right down to the lefty shot.  Contrast that against Westbrook, who goes at the rim the same way Dwyane Wade does – to inflict maximum punishment.
  • I don’t know if Mo Cheeks will get the nod this year for the HoF.  He had a solid career and is widely known as one of the better PG’s of the 80’s.  One thing that surprises me is how there has been very little discussion so far this year regarding his appearance on the Thunder’s bench and Westbrook’s meteoric rise as a Super-PG.  Correlation? Causation? A little insight would be nice.
  • Last note on Cheeks – even if he doesn’t make it to the HoF, in my mind he’ll be known forever for two things – helping Dr. J win his only NBA championship, and THIS.  Sometimes it is the small moments, away from the fanfare, that shows us who the true men of character really are.

Add another one to the Westbrook jam lexicon.


Game 19 Results: Triple OT

Final Score: Thunder 123, Nets 120

Record: 13-6

Stat Leaders

Points: Westbrook 38, Green 37, Lopez 28, Farmar 28

Rebounds: Westbrook 15, Kris Humphries 15

Assists: Westbrook 9, Farmar 9

There are probably a half dozen ways I could attempt to dissect tonight’s game.  The Thunder were without Durant, and the Nets were without Devin Harris.  Point-wise, it was probably a wash.  As a result, we expected the Thunder to play a certain way (See: Boston Celtics).  We didn’t quite get that defensive effort.  What we got instead was a thoroughly enjoyable game to watch.

“I thought we had the game won a lot and I thought we lost it a lot” – Coach Brooks

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11/27 Daily Links

Let’s hope that Jeff Green didn’t suffer too badly in his fall late in the game (still knocked down two critical FT’s).  Rest up, heading to Houston.

What the pros are saying:

What I’m saying:

  • A few things that Mayberry caught that I did not, and are worth repeating:
    • Byron Mullens came in when the Thunder were down 14 and he was charged with dealing with Roy Hibbert.  For some odd reason Hibbert looked like the second coming of Olajuwon while matched up against Ibaka and Green.  Mullens got the job done, shutting Hibbert off while the Thunder began their comeback.
    • Ibaka is a natural power forward and was terribly out of place going up against Hibbert.  Any negatives that would appear from his stat line should be mitigated by this fact.
    • Sefolosha continues to make key plays that fly under the radar.  Another 10 boards from the shooting guard spot, plus timely offense.  I really like the way he’s finding his niche in this offense.  Good teams need guys like him.
  • Excellent point from Daily Thunder regarding OKC’s ability to not give in to runs while they were playing from behind.  It seemed like there were a few moments where they were vulnerable to the Pacers running away with the game, and each time they kept in it through solid possessions and good rebounding.  They kept chipping and chipping, showing excellent patience throughout the 4th quarter.

Notable indeed.

UPDATE: Collison Signs Contract Extension for $11 million

Newsok.com reporting.  Nick celebrated by taking a charge.

OKC Thunder sign Nick Collison to contract extension

Nick Collison has shown an unwavering commitment to our organization through his willingness to accept various roles and his dedication to his teammates throughout his seven-year career with our franchise – Sam Presti.


Oklahoman’s Mayberry got a little Q&A time with Nick.


Marc Stein at ESPN breaks down the deal.  The Thunder GM Sam Presti has really created an interesting contract that awards both Collison and the team.

  • The Thunder had a $6.5 million cap space, which will vanish at the end of the season.
  • They decided to front-load Collison’s contract, accelerating a signing bonus into the current year.   This consumes the cap space and pays Collison $13.3 million in the current year.
  • The deal rewards Collison up front and demonstrates a loyalty to the young player whom the team is so high on.
  • After the initial lump sum, Collison’s salary goes way back down in subsequent years, making it very cap-friendly for when Durant’s extension kicks in, and for when Westbrook is due up for his first contract extension negotiation.
  • The deal insulates both the team and Collison from the potential looming lockout.
  • Kelly Dwyer at Ball Don’t Lie would like a loan.
  • A finance lesson here – Time Value of Money.
  • It is important to note that Jeff Green did not receive this kind of deal.  We’ll never know if he were offered a similar one, and if he was, what he knows about his free agency prospects that led in part to the negotiation breakdown.

Game 14 Results: Thunder Win, Defense Fails

Final Score: Thunder 117, Timberwolves 107

Record: 10-4

Division: 4-1

Stat leaders

Points: Durant with 28, Green with 24, Kevin Love with 24

Rebounds: Love with 17, Sefolosha with 11

Assists: Westbrook with 14, Luke Ridnour with 7, Durant with 5

Back at full Strength, the Thunder once again looked like an offensive juggernaut.  They had three guys score over 20, tallied 29 assists for the game, and shot 54.8%.

So why did I kind of hate the end result?

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Game 12: Thunder at Celtics Rematch

As of 3:30PM, it is still unknown as to whether Durant will be suiting up tonight, due to a sprained ankle sustained in the Rockets game.  Obviously this will impact the overall game to a great degree, so expectations may need to be tempered.


Tipoff: 7:00PM EST

Nearly two weeks ago, the defending Eastern Conference Champ Boston Celtics came into the Thunder Arena to test our young team.  As you probably also recall, after strategic bursts in both offense and defense as well as an ample helping of veteran savvy, the Celtics dispatched the Thunder, leaving the team demoralized and confused at 3-3.  I wish there were a little bit more time in between the first game and the rematch, which is this evening, so we could have a better picture at where the two teams are headed.  Never the less, we can still get an idea of what is to come by taking a look at what we have learned.


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John Hollinger 11/18 Chat Excerpt

Jeremy (Portland)

Do the Thunder need to seriously think about moving Harden & Green for a better/more consistent player?

ESPN John Hollinger:

What are they gonna get for those two? I’d love to see them start Ibaka at the 5 and keep Green at the 4 — that’s a small team but it’s the only way they have enough floor spacing. As for Harden, he’s been a total mess this year. I think you have to see if he can get it turned around, because right now they won’t be able to get fair value for him.

Read the complete transcript here.

A Congolese and a Hoya Enter the Octagon…

I’d like to once again highlight one of my previous links, a strong piece by Royce Young at DailyThunder.

It’s Officially Time to Ask the Question

That’s right, Royce finally decided to propose to Jeff Green.

Not really.

Young’s analysis of the delicate chemistry that is both the player’s psyche and the team’s dynamic is a good one and appropriate to consider while we’re still early in the season.

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11/14 Daily Links

Tipoff is at 7:00PM EST

First, some links to savor:

11/8 Daily Links

The Thunder find themselves at .500 again, after last night’s tough loss.  Lamentations abound.

What the pros are saying:

What I’m saying:

  • Royce points out that it was Westbrook who essentially forced the Thunder surge in the third quarter to get back in the game.  This does need to be acknowledged, but it’s important to look at it in context.  He wouldn’t have had to do it if he had played better in the first half, so at best you could argue that he finished at a net zero contribution.  I’d really like to see the team decide in the 76ers game that they’re going to get aggressive early, and see how it plays out.
  • Amidst the offensive futility last night, I was negligent in noting that the Thunder’s interior defense was vastly improved last night.  Granted, Garnett and Pierce are not classic interior post players, but for the first time this season I didn’t feel like they were getting handily outplayed in the paint.Part of this should be a credit to Ibaka, who held his own in his first start of the season.  Having him as a key contributor early on will greatly help their bench play as they reacquire Nick Collison and Jeff Green into the lineup.